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By Barry Dudley,

As advertising’s leaders of the pack report similarly strong 2024 financials, Barry Dudley decodes their earnings calls and explains how their journeys will drastically diverge in 2025.

Given its strong performance over the previous three quarters, it probably comes as no surprise to hear that Publicis continued that momentum in Q4. Indeed, it came in ahead of its own guidance.

Arthur Sadoun, chairman and CEO, said: “Thanks to a very strong Q4, Publicis became the largest advertising company in the world in 2024.

“We are ending the year in the number one position across the board, growing three times faster than our holding company peers, and five times faster than the IT consultancies. We delivered industry-high financial ratios while stepping up the pace of our investments in AI and talent. Once again, we topped the charts in new business rankings.

“But even more importantly, we are accelerating on our status as a Category of One thanks to our unmatched 1st-party data capabilities, our connected media ecosystem, our creative firepower, and our 25,000 engineers, brought together through the Power of One. This makes us confident in significantly outperforming the industry in 2025 for the sixth year in a row.”

The key numbers for the year to December 31, 2024: net revenue of €14bn, 5.8% organic net revenue growth, with operating profit of $2.5bn at a margin of 18%. That margin is impressive. Very impressive in fact, given its sheer scale, levels of infrastructure, the investments it’s making in its people, data, AI, technology, the list goes on. So, for those young, fleet-of-foot, dynamic independents out there an 18% margin must be a walk in the park to achieve – are you?

Sadoun went on to set out what he sees as the unique competitive advantages that have put Publicis in the “number one” spot:

  • “Leadership in first-party and proprietary data”
  • “Thanks to AI we connect this data to our entire media ecosystem and intelligent creativity”
  • “We have 25,000 engineers and consultants … to make sure our clients can integrate those capabilities into their own environments and transform their business model”
  • “We operate as an efficient and flexible single platform organization thanks to the Power of One, Marcel and our Country Model to make all of this data and technology seamlessly accessible to all off our clients and teams”

A pretty powerful framework. if you head up to 30,000 feet, what is your equivalent articulation of your competitive advantage(s)?

Part of what has driven Publicis, for decades now, has been chasing down the biggest in the pack – WPP. Having an enemy, a Goliath to your David, is very commonly what drives people, drives businesses. This has been the environment that Publicis has been playing within, evolving, looking for new angles, markets, advantages. Now it is the Goliath, or perhaps it’s Leo the Lion.

So what’s the goal now? Well, assuming that regulatory hurdles don’t trip up the Omnicom takeover of Interpublic, Publicis shifts back to number two (in terms of revenues). Sadoun is already relishing the hunt for the new Goliath – “this puts Publicis back into the challenger position, which is where we like to be.”

But he’s not rushing around trying to find a big lump to quickly fatten the numbers. Instead, Publicis is pointing to its €800m to €900m acquisition budget for ‘bolt ons’. This means buying strategically to enhance what it already has, to bolt things on to existing operations in some very specific areas: first-party data, production, digital media, technology – quite a spectrum.

And Sadoun isn’t about to put a banana skin in front of himself at the start of the year – his outlook is for 4% to 5% organic net revenue growth, which is slightly down on 2024. I’d bet on Publicis beating this range, but this old adage still works – under-promise, over-deliver!

Later the same day Omnicom’s results landed. It also had a strong year with $15.7bn of revenues, with organic growth of 5.2% over 2023 (the Publicis numbers above were on net revenue, so not quite apples and apples), and an EBITA margin of 15.5% (again not quite a comparison to Publicis – EBITA v operating margin). And the guidance for 2025 sounded familiar at 3.5% to 4.5% organic growth – under-promise, over-deliver.

John Wren, chairman and CEO, said: “From this position of strength, we are incredibly well prepared for and excited about the complementary combination of businesses and cultures with our proposed acquisition of Interpublic. Together, clients and employees will benefit from expanded products to deliver superior creativity, innovation and effectiveness. We will also bring together unparalleled data assets to market, fueling leading creative, produced at scale, and activated by the world’s top-ranked media practice to drive measurable sales. We see significant upside potential through expected revenue and cost synergies that can drive growth beyond what Omnicom was delivering alone.”

There were winners and losers across the different service lines and also by geography, but for me there were more interesting things that emerged.

During the results webcast, Wren unsurprisingly spent most of his time on the Interpublic takeover, a big part of which was around the $750m of annual cost synergies that it is expecting to achieve if the deal goes through. And he sees more synergies on top of these through revenue opportunities, leveraging near and offshore capabilities and utilizing automation, including AI.

Wren was keen to make clear that headcount savings “will not impact employees dedicated to servicing our clients and generating revenues.” I can imagine quite a few people trying to work out whether they fit into this definition…

And where there is duplication or for people who aren’t ‘dedicated to servicing our clients and generating revenues,’ they will choose “the best individuals across the organization, irrespective of their current affiliation.”

the biggest challenges in the coming months. Shareholder approval is set for March 18, but the deal won’t close until the second half of 2025. Until then, Wren said that they will “continue to operate as independent businesses.”

This is one hell of a lot of internal work, spreadsheets, integration planning, legal loopholes to crack. All while Publicis is practicing with its sling to take aim at the coming Goliath.

Feature Image Credit: Arthur Sadoun and John Wren / Publicis/Joel Saget/AFP – The Drum

By Barry Dudley,

Barry Dudley is a partner at Green Square

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On February 4th, the AAI hosted an insightful Toolkit event featuring economist Jim Power, who explored the far-reaching impacts of Donald Trump’s policies on the US, Europe, and Ireland. From trade disruptions to shifting US-EU relations, the discussion provided valuable takeaways for businesses navigating today’s economic landscape.

If you couldn’t attend—or want to revisit key insights—watch the full session now:

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There is an exodus of users who are ditching Meta platforms following the decision to end fact checking.

Apparently not everyone is ready to live in a post-truth world. In the wake of Mark Zuckerberg’s announcement that Meta platforms including Facebook, Instagram, and Threads will ditch professional fact-checkers in favour of a Community Notes-style crowdsourcing approach to accountability, searches for deleting Meta accounts have spiked significantly.

Searches for “how to delete Facebook” and “how to delete Instagram” peaked in the days following the announcement that accuracy is no longer a priority for posting on the platforms, according to Google Trends data. Related searches like “how to quit Facebook,” “how to delete threads account,” and “how to delete Instagram account without logging in” have also achieved breakout trend status, meaning they have seen 5,000% increases or higher in interest, as TechCrunch pointed out.

A screenshot of trend data from Google Trends showing the growing number of searches for how to delete Facebook and Instagram
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Fittingly, Facebook competitors are also seeing a spike in interest. Bluesky saw a nearly 1,000% increase in searches during the same period that saw people looking to exit the Meta-verse of social apps. Zuckerberg accused people leaving his company’s platforms of “virtue signalling,” presumably because he assumes everyone is as deeply unscrupulous and malleable as he is and wouldn’t do anything simply out of principle.

Alas, for those looking for a landing spot, there aren’t a lot of suitable replacements for platforms like Instagram—or Facebook, for that matter—for folks looking to leave the platforms behind as they turn into post-fact AI slop factories.

Zuckerberg has successfully cornered major parts of the social web, and escaping his grasp is difficult—especially when it requires convincing the people you want to stay connected with to follow suit. Facebook has successfully amassed more than three billion monthly active users globally and Instagram has two billion. Want to chat with your friends? Meta-owned WhatsApp has nearly three billion active chatters and Messenger has more than one billion of its own. Even if you delete your accounts or never made one to begin with, Meta retains data about you and continues to track your activity across the web for its massive digital advertising business.

Of course, that should not stop you from trying to limit your exposure to the tentacles of the monster that is Meta. And just statistically speaking, since you likely landed here by searching something along the lines of “how to delete facebook,” the least we can do is give you what you’re looking for. You get your guide, we get some clicks, and everyone leaves happy.

How to Delete Your Facebook Account

A quick preface here: Facebook, through what could probably best be described as a wilfully inefficient user interface, has created a labyrinthian maze of menus that you have to navigate in order to find the option to delete your account—and that maze will be different depending on what operating system, platform, and version of the Facebook that you are accessing.

That said, if you are on an iPhone or Android device:

  1. Click the three-bar “Menu” button on the bottom right of the Facebook app
  2. Tap the “Settings & privacy” header
  3. If “Accounts Center” appears in this menu, tap it. If it doesn’t, tap “Settings” and the app should redirect you to “Accounts Center” following a popup explaining its function
  4. Tap “Personal details”
  5. Tap “Account ownership and control”
  6. Tap “Deactivation or deletion”
  7. Choose the account or profile you want to delete
  8. Tap “Delete account”
  9. Tap “Continue” and follow the instructions on screen to confirm

If Accounts Center appears for you, you should be able to delete your Facebook and Instagram accounts at the same time, assuming they are linked together.

If you are viewing Facebook on a desktop, the same steps apply, except your first step is to click your profile picture in the top right. From here, find “Settings & privacy” and follow the same steps as above.

Regardless if you are on desktop or mobile apps, if the Accounts Center doesn’t appear for you, do the following:

  1. Follow steps 1 and 2 above
  2. Once in “Settings & privacy,” tap “Profile Access and Control”
  3. Tap “Deactivation and Deletion”
  4. Choose “Delete Account” and tap “Continue to Account Deletion”
  5. Follow the instructions on screen to confirm

How to Delete Your Instagram Account

If your Instagram account is not linked to your Facebook account, you can delete it separately in the iOS and Android app by doing the following:

  1. Tap “profile” or your profile picture in the bottom right
  2. Tap  the three-bar “More” menu on the top right
  3. Tap “Accounts Center”
  4. Tap “Personal details”
  5. Tap “Account ownership and control”
  6. Tap “Deactivation or deletion”
  7. Tap the account you’d like to delete
  8. Tap “Delete account” 
  9. Tap “Continue” and follow the steps on screen to confirm

If you’re visiting Instagram on desktop, your first step will be to Click “More” on the bottom left of the screen, then click Settings. From there, follow steps 3 through 9 above.

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By Skye Jacobs

Political advertising was a big driver behind the surge

In a nutshell: YouTube achieved record-breaking ad revenue in the fourth quarter of 2024, raking in a staggering $10.4 billion from advertisements alone. This astronomical figure, representing a 13.8 percent increase from the previous year, comes amid mounting user dissatisfaction with the platform’s aggressive ad strategy.

YouTube‘s advertising model has long been a source of frustration for its vast user base. The platform’s approach to monetization, which often involves interrupting videos with unskippable ads, is seen by many as intrusive and detrimental to the viewing experience.

Despite the discontent, the numbers tell a different story. The platform’s ability to generate revenue seems unaffected by user grumbling. That is largely due to its vast content library, much of which is unique to the platform, and thus the lack of comparable alternatives. This captive audience provides a steady stream of ad viewers, even if they are reluctant ones.

Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai attributed much of the revenue jump to the 2024 U.S. presidential election. Combined spending on YouTube ads by the Democratic and Republican parties was almost double what they spent in the 2020 election, he said. This political advertising bonanza contributed significantly to YouTube’s coffers, with over 45 million people watching election-related content on the platform on election day alone.

YouTube offers an escape from its ad-laden experience through its Premium subscription service, priced at $14 per month or $140 per year. However, many users balk at the cost, viewing it as an expensive solution to a problem of YouTube’s own making.

Despite user reluctance, YouTube’s subscription revenues – bundled under Google subscriptions, platforms, and devices in its earnings statement – increased from $10.8 billion in Q4 2023 to $11.6 billion in Q4 2024. According to Anat Ashkenazi, Alphabet’s CFO, subscription products are growing primarily due to increased paid subscribers across YouTube TV, YouTube Music Premium, and Google One.

Now, YouTube is betting big on AI to turbocharge its advertising strategies. Philipp Schindler, chief business officer at Alphabet, highlighted the potential of AI in marketing, citing a case study where Petco utilized AI-powered campaigns on YouTube. The company achieved a 275 percent higher return on ad spend and a 74 percent higher click-through rate than its social benchmarks, Schindler reported.

He also noted that Google AI-powered video campaigns on YouTube deliver a 17 percent higher return on advertising spend than manual campaigns, according to Nielsen analysis.

While this may be music to advertisers’ ears, for users, it could mean even more precisely targeted – and potentially more irritating – ad experiences in the future.

By Skye Jacobs

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By Adam Povlitz , Edited by Carl Stoffers

Brands are always looking for new ways to impact and connect with their audiences. One strategy that has stood the test of time is storytelling.

Key Takeaways

As brands jostle for recognition in a crowded market, the art of storytelling gives them a distinct edge. Compelling storytelling is the key to setting your brand apart, creating a human connection, and building a loyal customer base that truly understands and values your brand’s mission. These stories will become the foundation of your brand, making it more memorable and relatable.

Crafting an authentic brand narrative

The narrative is the bedrock of a robust emotional bond with your audience. This journey begins with clearly articulating your brand’s central purpose and values. Understanding and conveying what your brand represents establishes a bedrock of trust and genuineness that strikes a chord with your intended audience. Through a carefully crafted narrative, you set the stage for a captivating story that’s also perfectly aligned with your brand’s spirit.

You must understand your audience’s needs, challenges and dreams to accomplish a strong, attention-grabbing narrative. It’s more than just knowing who they are or where they live; it’s about connecting with the feelings and motivations that drive them. When you can empathize with their struggles and celebrate their victories, you create a narrative that builds a profound emotional bond. This bond turns customers into champions, as they view your brand as a companion in their journey, not just a seller of products or services.

Visual storytelling

What goes great with words? Pictures. Visual storytelling has become a cornerstone in the digital world, providing brands with a dynamic way to capture their audience’s attention and convey their message. High-quality visuals, including images, videos, and infographics, can help brands stand out in a crowded digital landscape.

Symbolic imagery can be a powerful tool for deepening a brand’s narrative. This type of imagery communicates across cultural and linguistic barriers, creating a shared emotional language that fosters a stronger connection with the audience. This, in turn, can lead to increased brand loyalty and a sense of belonging among customers.

Interactive experiences are yet another potent tool in the visual storytelling arsenal. Elements like quizzes, polls, and virtual reality experiences infuse narratives with dynamism and captivation. They empower audiences to explore and engage with the brand’s story on their terms, fostering a feeling of personal investment and connection.

Harnessing the power of emotions

Emotions are the foundation of our human experience and are a key driver of consumer behavior. Effective storytelling is not just about sharing information; it’s about creating an emotional connection that resonates with the audience, building a sense of familiarity and trust. Whether it’s joy, surprise, anger, or fear, understanding and leveraging these emotions can transform a straightforward narrative into a powerful tool for brand loyalty.

One of the most effective ways to tap into the power of emotions through storytelling is by creating compelling characters and scenarios that strike a chord with your audience. People who see themselves in your stories are more likely to form an emotional connection with your brand. This connection can be a powerful influence on purchasing decisions, as people are naturally drawn to brands that understand and validate their experiences.

The emotional palette is broad, and each hue can be a potent brushstroke on the storytelling canvas. This makes striking a balance between positive and negative emotions significant. Positive emotions can help to build trust and connection, while negative emotions can emphasize the importance of the brand’s solutions or values. A story that’s all positive can come across as disingenuous and a story that’s all negative can feel overwhelming. Striking the right balance enables brands to create authentic and compelling narratives that deeply connect with their audience on multiple levels.

Trends and innovations

Storytelling in the digital age is a rapidly evolving landscape, with new trends and innovations constantly redefining how brands connect with their audiences. One exciting development is the rise of interactive narratives that transform passive readers into active participants.

This level requires augmented and virtual reality (AR and VR) to create immersive experiences. These technologies take traditional screen-based content to the next level, allowing audiences to become part of the story. Whether a virtual tour of a product’s manufacturing process or an AR-enhanced shopping experience, these immersive narratives can help brands stand out in a competitive market.

And let’s not forget the rising star of data analytics, which transforms how we tell stories. Storytelling armed with insightful consumer data, narratives can be shaped to connect on a personal level, elevating the brand experience to something truly meaningful and relatable.

As we look ahead to 2025, the brands that adeptly weave these trends and innovations into their storytelling fabric will shine and forge enduring bonds with their audiences.

By Adam Povlitz

Entrepreneur Leadership Network® Contributor. Adam Povlitz is CEO and president of Anago Cleaning Systems, one of the world’s leading franchised commercial cleaning companies, and a leader in technological advances relating to business operations and facilities services with over 1,800 franchisees across North America.

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By Stan Schroeder

There’s a new AI player in town, and you might want to pay attention to this one.

On Monday, Chinese artificial intelligence company DeepSeek launched a new, open-source large language model called DeepSeek R1.

According to DeepSeek, R1 wins over other popular LLMs (large language models) such as OpenAI in several important benchmarks, and it’s especially good with mathematical, coding, and reasoning tasks.

DeepSeek R1 is actually a refinement of DeepSeek R1 Zero, which is an LLM that was trained without a conventionally used method called supervised fine-tuning. This made it very capable in certain tasks, but as DeepSeek itself puts it, Zero had “poor readability and language mixing.” Enter R1, which fixes these issues by incorporating “multi-stage training and cold-start data” before it was trained with reinforcement learning.

Arcane technical language aside (the details are online if you’re interested), there are several key things you should know about DeepSeek R1. First, it’s open source, meaning it’s up for scrutiny from experts, which should alleviate concerns about privacy and security. Second, it’s free to use as a web app, while API access is very cheap ($0.14 for one million input tokens, compared to OpenAI’s $7.5 for its most powerful reasoning model, o1).

Most importantly, this thing is very, very capable. To test it out, I immediately threw it into deep waters, asking it to code a fairly complex web app which needed to parse publicly available data, and create a dynamic website with travel and weather information for tourists. Amazingly, DeepSeek produced completely acceptable HTML code right away, and was able to further refine the site based on my input while improving and optimizing the code on its own along the way.

DeepSeek AI
I’ll do all of that…tomorrow. Credit: Stan Schroeder / Mashable / DeepSeek

I also asked it to improve my chess skills in five minutes, to which it replied with a number of neatly organized and very useful tips (my chess skills did not improve, but only because I was too lazy to actually go through with DeepSeek’s suggestions).

I then asked DeepSeek to prove how smart it is in exactly three sentences. Bad move by me, as I, the human, am not nearly smart enough to verify or even fully understand any of the three sentences. Notice, in the screenshot below, that you can see DeepSeek’s “thought process” as it figures out the answer, which is perhaps even more fascinating than the answer itself.

DeepSeek AI
We get it, you’re smart. Credit: Stan Schroeder / Mashable / DeepSeek

It’s impressive to use. But as ZDnet noted, in the background of all this are training costs which are orders of magnitude lower than for some competing models, as well as chips which aren’t as powerful as the chips that are on disposal for U.S. AI companies. DeepSeek thus shows that extremely clever AI with reasoning ability doesn’t have to be extremely expensive to train — or to use.

Feature Image Credit: DeepSeek

By Stan Schroeder

Stan is a Senior Editor at Mashable, where he has worked since 2007. He’s got more battery-powered gadgets and band t-shirts than you. He writes about the next groundbreaking thing. Typically, this is a phone, a coin, or a car. His ultimate goal is to know something about everything.

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Artificial Intelligence, Ai, Facebook, Facebook Ai

“Translation: ‘Our real users are quitting the platform, so we will fill our community with fake users instead.'”

Folks on social media are in an uproar after Meta announced that it’s planning to load Facebook up with AI “users,” better known as bots.

First reported by the Financial Times, this plan to populate the dying social network with these so-called “characters” is geared towards driving engagement — even though other platforms, including Meta’s Instagram, have been roiled by unauthorized bots for years.

“We expect these AIs to actually, over time, exist on our platforms, kind of in the same way that accounts do,” Connor Hayes, Meta’s vice-president of product for generative AI, told the FT. “They’ll have bios and profile pictures and be able to generate and share content powered by AI on the platform… that’s where we see all of this going.”

While it’s unclear when this plan will move forward, Hayes said that there are already “hundreds of thousands” of characters that have been created on the site — though most, for now, remain private.

Unsurprisingly, users on the r/futurology subreddit saw right through the ruse.

“Translation: ‘Our real users are quitting the platform, so we will fill our community with fake users instead,'” one user wrote.

As another aptly put it, “the advertisers buying space on [Facebook] won’t be able to tell the difference either, so it’s all just more clicks and more ad revenue.”

The potential implications for advertising on the platform overall seemed to strike a chord with the Redditors.

“With advertising being their bread and butter and pretty much the reason they still exist, how is this legal and not misrepresenting numbers to clients?” another user mused. “If they tell advertisers that they get X number of impressions, engagement, etc. but those aren’t real people anymore, that seems like straight up lying. Wild that they’re just coming right out with it and doubling down.”

For others, the prospect of fake users is yet another reason they’re ditching Facebook.

“I rarely check my FB feed at all anymore, and when I do it’s almost entirely made up of pages I don’t follow and have never interacted with,” another user wrote. “There’s no way to actually get rid of them, just briefly mute them. So now we can look forward to our actual contacts being even harder to see among a bunch of fictitious users too.”

Unfortunately, those left on the platform — the elderly and assorted right-wingers who are regularly duped by obvious AI slop — may not be able to tell the difference.

“I think the old people that use it the most are the least likely to notice,” one user concluded.

Feature Image Credit: Image by Chris Unger/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images

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Amid the rise of ChatGPT, and conversational search more broadly, Google is losing ground as the key discovery platform on the web.

Well, by “losing ground”, I mean that its share of the search engine market dropped below 90% for the first time in a decade last year. So it’s still by far the dominant discovery tool, but the AI shift is having at least some impact on its core business.

As you can see in this new chart, created by the team at Visual Capitalist, while Google has lost ground slightly, Bing has increased, which is presumably due to Microsoft’s partnership with OpenAI, which has led to Bing’s integration of more AI elements (while ChatGPT also displays Bing results).

Indeed, back in 2023, after Microsoft announced the integration of ChatGPT results into its Bing search engine, Bing downloads increased tenfold as a result.

Long considered the “other” search engine, generative AI has made Bing more relevant, though Google is working to counter that with its own AI elements.

Which, presumably, will ensure that Google remains the leader in online discovery, but it is interesting to note this shift, and to consider what the AI shift means for discovery moving forward.

Check out the infographic overview below.

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If it’s time for you to take the mic in 2025, this step-by-step guide will help you get set up.

The following guide that explains how to start a podcast is part of Glamour’Smart Goals series, which explores reasonable, quantifiable, and—crucially—sane ways to embark on self-improvement objectives you’d like to complete this year. We all know traditional New Year’s resolutions are nonsense and designed mainly to make us feel terrible about ourselves and, as a result, spend money on things we think we need to live a more fulfilling life. Here our senior editor lays out how anyone can start the podcast of their dreams by asking established hosts and audio personalities for some of their best advice, from how to know whether your idea is a viable one to what equipment to invest in.

At this moment in time, it feels like literally everyone has figured out how to start to a podcast. We might roll our eyes when we hear about a celebrity, an influencer, or a vaguely notable human launching a new audio series because, yes, the space is saturated and not everyone’s voice urgently needs to be heard. But here’s the thing: Great podcasts can be truly great, which means there’s always room for more.

The podcast industry has taken on new life over the past decade. According to Pew Research, in a 2023 poll 42% of adult Americans said they’d listened to a podcast in the past month. Comparatively, in 2013, just 12% of Americans over 12 years of age said the same. That’s a massive increase, and the industry and ecosystem surrounding the medium has grown right alongside it.

One of the most radical things about a podcast is it’s an egalitarian form of broadcast media. A radio show requires a station and a license, but really anyone can make a podcast. All you need is a computer, a mic, and—if you want listeners—a captivating idea.

This may seem simple in theory, but for aspiring podcasters it’s hard to know where to begin. So ahead of the New Year, Glamour (which, in case you didn’t know, has had three successful podcasts: What I Wore When, in which we talk to influential women about a pivotal outfit in their life; Broken Harts, a chart-topping true-crime investigation; and She Makes Money Moves, a series that examines personal finance) went straight to the source, successful podcasters from across genre and industries, to help you get going.

With their advice and your ideas, 2025 is totally going to be your year.

Do I need experience to learn how to start a podcast?

Some podcasters come to the medium with experience in audio recording, but many do not. Journalists Emma Gray and Claire Fallon, hosts of the reality dating show recap podcast Love to See It, were working for HuffPo in 2015, when they were encouraged by their then editors to submit ideas for a podcast.

“We were interested in creating a space for people like us, people who loved watching reality dating shows, but also had some fundamental critiques of the messages that these fundamentally conservative, arguably antifeminist, cultural products were sending viewers,” they tell Glamour. “So we decided to try creating a pilot and see where it went.”

While Fallon and Gray were seasoned storytellers, they had no experience with podcasting.

“We had absolutely zero experience hosting, producing, or editing audio before diving in head-first,” they say. “Like so many things, you can learn on the job.”

Other hosts come to the space from a variety of other paths. Fletcher C. Johnson initially got into podcasting as a way to promote his music career, after a friend suggested releasing his new album through a podcast as a way to promote it.

“That was a hit, so then I started releasing my short stories through the podcast and that also really worked,” he says. He now shares short stories on his podcast, Listening to Fletcher C Johnson.

Comedian Eric Williams, host and creator of That’s a Gay Ass Podcast, decided to create his podcast after finding success with his video series of the same name and having a work slowdown during COVID-19. He also had never worked in audio production before.

“I had edited tons of videos, so I had a bit of a framework for how editing works, but everything else was new,” he tells Glamour. “I did a lot of googling.”

What equipment do I need to start a podcast?

Like so many other things in life, when in doubt, turn to the internet. Sophia Myszkowski and Jonathan Zelinger did just that when they decided to launch their matchmaking and dating podcast, Paired Down, earlier this year. They both work in media—Zelinger is a writer and Myszkowski a producer—but they had the same question when they first started out.

“We talked to friends and colleagues who had more experience in the audio field to get their advice on budget or mid-price-range recording equipment, but also did some googling and read some Reddit reviews,” Myszkowski tells Glamour.

When influencer and writer Ayana Lage started her podcast, Asked by Ayana, she also took to social networks, both online and IRL, for help.

“I feel really lucky that I have friends who let me ask a million questions in the beginning,” she says. “I took their advice along with posts on Reddit and things I’d seen popular podcasters share.”

The podcasters say you need two key things: a good pair of headphones and a recording microphone. Lage recommends these headphones and Johnson this microphone (“Tom Petty always used the Shure SM-57 on his recordings, so I figured, if it’s good enough for Petty, it’s good enough for me,” he says). Myszkowski also recommends this recording device, and you can also record audio via an online program like Riverside or Zencastr.

How do I get guests to come on my podcast?

Start close to home: Ask your friends. When Lage first started, she relied on interesting people she already knew to start out and build her podcast’s brand.

“Once I started to run out of people I already knew, I got comfortable sliding into people’s DMs to ask if they’d be interested in appearing,” she says. “I keep it short and sweet and offer to send more information via email if they’re interested. I get left on read, which doesn’t always feel great, but you’ve got to shoot your shot.” Now representatives pitch guests to her as well.

This isn’t the time to be shy, say Fallon and Gray.

“We were pretty shameless when we started out,” they say. “We looked for people we admired who had already publicly posted about the topics we were discussing on our show, and we just reached out to them. Sometimes we heard back; sometimes we didn’t. But eight years later, we still go back to some of those early guests.”

For Myszkowski and Zelinger, who needed a large pool of normal people willing to be set up, they went real old-school.

“We started out by petitioning our entire friend group and extended network,” they say. “We also linked the sign-up forms on every social media channel we have, and did the old-fashioned approach of printing out fliers with QR codes and plastering them all around Brooklyn. If you’ve been in Prospect Park or Fort Greene Park in the last couple months, you’ve probably seen one.”

What makes a good podcast?

Of course, everyone has different preferences for what they want to listen to, but there are a few things that take a show from just okay to great. A good idea, of course, is key.

“Ask yourself, ‘Is there something I want to listen to that doesn’t exist yet?’” Zelinger advises. “If the answer is yes, you have a podcast idea on your hands.”

Gray and Fallon say the topic of the podcast doesn’t matter as long as you have a compelling theme and an engaging host with great storytelling abilities and clean production.

“Fancy sound cues and other high-level production things are great, but a podcast can be really good and scrappy as long as the topic and host draw you in,” they say.

Lage agrees, saying an engaging host and topic is really all you need.

“I love a show where I feel like I’m in the room with the hosts listening to them chat,” she says. “On the flip side, I love it when podcasts are short and sweet. Finding the perfect length is hard, but I think the best shows strike the balance.”

What’s the number one piece of advice I should remember as I start?

Okay, that was a lot of information. But don’t get overwhelmed. The podcasters say there really just are a few simple pieces of advice they can impart to set you up for success.

First, make sure you are pacing yourself, are being realistic about your scheduling and goals, and aren’t burning yourself out.

“Podcasts take time and do not grow overnight,” says Williams. “But they can bring so much joy and the work is worth it.”

Lage agreed, explaining that she once took a break from her podcast after experiencing burnout. “I took a couple months off and came back stronger than ever,” she says.

As for the actual content, it really is as simple as: If you think it’s a good idea and can make a full episode, other people will likely think so too.

“Make a podcast that you’d want to listen to,” say Fallon and Gray. “That’s a great way to identify a gap in the space or a community that might be craving exactly what you can provide.”

Also, Johnson advises to not rush out your episodes or your idea.

“Take the time to make them good,” he says. “There’s a seemingly infinite number of podcasts coming out everyday, and it just takes a little effort to make your pod stand out…. Put in the time writing, researching, and editing your podcast, and you can easily be better than almost everyone else in the game right now.”

And it may sound clichéd, says Myszkowski, but sometimes you should just take the leap.

“I think you just have to do it,” she says. “Start recording or scripting or interviewing or editing, and don’t get bogged down by perfectionism in the beginning. Sometimes you have to just build the plane while it’s flying.”

Lage agrees. After all, what do you have to lose?

“If you start and realize it isn’t for you, there’s no shame in quitting,” she says. “Just start!”

Stephanie McNeal is a senior editor for Glamour with more than a decade of experience covering pop culture, internet trends, social media, books, lifestyle, and women’s political and social issues. She specializes in in-depth analysis and reporting on the cultural zeitgeist, whether that’s profiling people from Bravo stars to… Read more

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